June 20th, 2005


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jimbojones
02:48 pm - civil liberties, communication, gay marriage
I saw a bumper sticker today that made me intensely angry.  Yes, a bumper sticker.



I saw this and I thought, what the fuck?  I knew in theory that these people obviously existed - and in massive numbers - but I'm actually seeing two of them right now, proudly proclaiming their bigotry and intolerance for the world to see as they drive slowly, erratically, and incompetently through about one and a half lanes ahead of me.  And what they are determined enough to special order, so that they can display their sentiment to the world, is that marriage is BATHROOM ICONS.

Part of me wanted to pull them over and ask what the hell they were thinking - did they really think that a same-gender marriage in which the partners loved, cared for, trusted, and were committed to each other "desanctified the institution of marriage" more than a male-female marriage in which the partners marry for show, lie to one another, and abandon or ignore their commitment to each other?  If not, shouldn't they have a bumper sticker saying "marriage = love, trust, and commitment" and let the rest sort itself out?  Or were they afraid that their taxes or their insurance might go up if gay people got the (somewhat dubious) benefit of married status?  Or perhaps they think that, despite thousands of years of history that say otherwise, if they stop hating gay people then suddenly half the population will "turn gay" and there won't be enough children in the next generation?

Another part of me just wanted to find the car parked somewhere, and sneak up ninja style and tape thoroughly pornographic photos of a throbbingly erect penis and an aroused vagina over their nice, clean, dainty little bathroom stick figure icons.  Because, really, that's what they're saying.  Might as well be honest about it, right?  Marriage = cock + pussy.  Organic tinkertoys.  Tab A and Slot B.

The majority of me, of course, ruled for me doing nothing of either sort and settling instead for shooting them a withering glare as I passed them, and coming home to write an article about it on the internet.  Which they will never see.  And I wonder... do these people go through the vast majority of their own lives knowing abstractly that people out there don't "hate the gays", but blindly assuming that those people aren't anyone they interact with on a daily basis?  Probably... but what do you do?  In an era of unlimited telephony, broadband internet access, 24/7 television and radio broadcasting, email, search engines, and more... how can we still at the heart of it be a society with so little honest communication?


 
Current Mood: frustrated
Current Music: Tool - Prison Sex

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[User Picture] From: herbaliser
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 12:00 pm
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[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 12:11 pm
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Thanks for the link.

I don't really find what he actually had to say all that "homophobic" or "gay-bashing" as he's been accused of, but I didn't find much of jack shit of substance in there either - or at least not substance I am prepared to accept as germane to the discussion of law. At no point does he outline why homosexuality is "bad" or "to be controlled" other than that it is a "sin" - and, hey, hello, separation of church and state, mmkay?

I'm frankly a little relieved at having read the infamous article now, because I do like the man's books and find a lot of wisdom in them. And I don't see much in the way of hatred or even intolerance in what he wrote in the article... just, well, a fundamental error. But I can live with that much, at least to the degree of still buying his fiction.


 
[User Picture] From: herbaliser
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 01:19 pm
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one pretty interesting argument i've read is that if Gays start marrying, Straight Men will avoid it like the plague.


 
[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 01:23 pm
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What, the same way they scared them away from promiscuity?


 
[User Picture] From: herbaliser
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 01:25 pm
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I was thinking Broadway musicals.


 
[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 01:28 pm
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Turns out the straight guys ALREADY didn't like musicals much. Promiscuity is a much better analogy on several fronts.

About the only thing I can think of offhand that gay people actually scared straight men away from is the use of the word "gay" to mean "happy". (an old neighbor of mine was named "Gaylord." Up until the fifties or sixties, everybody called him "Gay". Then it meant something different. He was kinda bitter about that.)


 
[User Picture] From: teapotdome
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 12:36 pm
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Marriage = cock + pussy. Organic tinkertoys. Tab A and Slot B.

Note that the hardcore defense-of-marriage types wouldn't see any sort of problem with this. The verse that gets cited most frequently, Gen. 1:27, reads 'So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them,' where the Hebrew words rendered 'male' and 'female' literally say 'wang' and 'vag' respectively. So the union of two people into marriage--the 'cleaving unto his wife' of Gen. 2:24--is entirely dependent upon that hardware compatibility issue.


 
From: yagoda_yagoda
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 04:29 pm
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>how can we still at the heart of it be a society with
>so little honest communication?

The last time our society engaged in honest communication, we had a civil war. The immovable mover and the irresistible force are lurking amongst us, and if they were to honestly communicate...? I fear the result. IMO, silence and white lies are crucial. The "we don't discuss religion here," the "don't bring up politics," the internet post that they never see. Those "failures to communicate honestly" actually hold us all about as close together as we can stand to be.


 
[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 05:05 pm
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I have a rather different interpretation of that.

"When they came for the _______, I didn't speak up because I wasn't a _______. And when they came for the ______, I didn't speak up because I wasn't a ________. And when they came for me, there was no-one left to say anything."

Yeah, I know, it's a Holocaust reference... so passe. So outre. But y'know, there really ARE lessons to be learned from that.


 
[User Picture] From: clme
Date: June 20th, 2005 - 09:25 pm
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Remember the following information boys and girls, it could save hours of argument with your small-minded acquaintances and relatives.

Shotgun weddings: OK, but they have to go to church.

Marriage for money: OK.

Marriage for sex: OK if you go to church now and then.

Marriage to someone much older than you: Acceptable, but not ideal.

Arranged Marriages: Not only OK, but great subjects for moral musicals and movies that people get the wrong messages from.

Inter-Racial marriage: Depends on the race, and how much the shades of their skin clash.

Same-Sex Marriage: Somehow this will destroy life as we know it.

Inter-Species Marriage: According to the pundits and many republican congressmen, this is the next 'logical' step after same-sex marriage.

Common-law Marriage: Ok if you're platonic, you sinners.

Cheating on your spouse during marriage: Forgivable for the man, but not the women. He's under a lot of pressure, after all.

Divorce: This is completely unforgivable in the eyes of God and anyone with children. But everybody does it, just like masturbation. Just dont talk about it and get yourself remarried as soon as you can.

Wearing White at your second Wedding: If you fooled them the first time, go for it.


Always lie to people that ask if you're getting married for silly reasons like 'love' or 'because you want to spend the rest of your life with a person and this seemed like the perfect contract to show your intentions'. As far as all parents and other married people are concerned, marriage is to make babies.


 
From: jackylhellstrom
Date: June 21st, 2005 - 07:22 am
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I saw one of those bumper stickers a few months back on a pick-up truck loaded with many other bumper stickers. Including :

"God Bless America"
"These Colors Don't Run"
"I Support Our Troops"

Now, it only seemed natural that the "Marriage = Man + Woman" bumper sticker was to make an appearance. The interesting thing was, the guy obviously -loves- America, which in turn should mean he loves the freedom that comes with it. Yet... he is against the freedom of homosexuals to get married if they so choose to.

I was going to ask him about his clashing bumper stickers, but he would probably have just rambled on about how the gays and the blacks are drowning society and preaching Satanism or some other religious crap.


 
[User Picture] From: herbaliser
Date: June 21st, 2005 - 01:42 pm
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[User Picture] From: lindapendant
Date: July 17th, 2005 - 12:11 pm
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Could be two guys, one of which likes dressing in women's clothes, could be two women, one of which likes dressing in men's clothes. Depends how the mind works.


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