November 30th, 2005


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jimbojones
12:49 pm - wow
I always thought that those Nigerian scammer-spammers who asked for your bank account information ( MY NAME IS DR IYKE MADU ... $15.5 MILLION DOLLARS ... BLAH BLAH BLAH) were trying to get hold of enough identifying information to rape your accounts electronically. 

Turns out, according to BBC, the Register and the US Secret Service, that's not really the case - providing your bank account number is mostly just an identifier that you're a "live one".  What the actual game plan is - after getting you to wire them as much money as possible before hand - is to get you to actually TRAVEL TO THEM, after which you can be kidnapped / ransomed / forced to completely empty your bank account in person.

Holy shit.  That makes it a little more understandable why the 419 spammer busted by a Dublin sysadmin actually tried to eat his fucking USB drive when the cops showed up.  A bit more was at stake than just "you sent some email that people didn't want."

Every time you think you know how nasty the world is, it just gets a little bit worse. =\


 
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[User Picture] From: lindapendant
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 06:12 pm
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It always completey blows my mind that people, without a gun to their head, will give strangers bank and credit card information, or forgodsake, their cash. Unless and only unless these are elderly folks who have half lost their mind, they deserve it. I suppose I might, just maybe get sucked into giving some poor sap ten bucks when he looks at me all teary eyed and says it's for gas and he's stranded, and he promises to pay me back, but I'll kiss it goodbye straight away. Anything more than that will be a charitable donation that I know will get to where it's supposed to go. Anything less goes to the rubbies.


 
[User Picture] From: herbaliser
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 06:41 pm
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I had actually heard of that, but omg how fucking stupid do you have to be to GO TO ANOTHER COUNTRY like that?


 
[User Picture] From: discogravy
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 09:34 pm
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well, what would it take to get you into their trap?

what if they were offering you lots of intoxicants and out of print Interpol tracks? or if it were a particularly sternum-fetish-worthy Nigerian scammer?


 
[User Picture] From: herbaliser
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 09:38 pm
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They can spend some of that money to COME HERE where I can see them in person.


 
[User Picture] From: discogravy
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 09:40 pm
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never would have occured to me

....so you're saying Jimbo's an american 419er?


 
[User Picture] From: thesadpunk
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 08:18 pm
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I find it hard to believe a Nigerian is able to sweet talk an American to come visit him. Even if you believe this scam, Americans usually just throw money at problems instead of take an active role in anything. People are afraid to drive to the local grocery store these days, let alone fly to Nigeria.


 
[User Picture] From: herbaliser
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 09:38 pm
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[User Picture] From: thesadpunk
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 10:16 pm
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I don't think his nationality is what made the difference in this case though- it was that HE WAS OLD.


 
[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: December 1st, 2005 - 12:54 am
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I disagree. I think "greedy and really fucking stupid" are the operative keywords here.


 
[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 10:17 pm
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The object of the scam is not to appeal to the sense of helpfulness of the victim, it's to appeal to their sense of avarice.

That and their utter fucking stupidity, of course.

I remember it amazed me at first when I found out, a year or two ago, that it was actually Nigerians behind the Nigerian scams at all. Since they'd asked for bank account information, I had assumed it was random l33t h4x0rz just looking to e-rape people's accounts with that info and little or nothing else. Nasty, yes, but a bloodless crime at least.

Then I found out from scammer-baiting sites that, yeah, those really ARE Nigerians, which was amazing enough. But now finding out that they don't even USE the bank number info - that it's just a leader to let them know they've got a live one on the hook to entice close for physical violence and robbery... jesus.


 
[User Picture] From: mtu_squirrel
Date: November 30th, 2005 - 10:37 pm
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I think what's even worse is that people haven't caught onto this scam yet and it's bringing in MILLIONS into Nigeria, or so the Secret Service site reported.

and that right there is disturbing that there's really THAT many people falling for it.


 
[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: December 1st, 2005 - 12:50 am
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There are 290 million people in the USA alone. When you consider that a single score may be anywhere from $5,000 on the low end to $100,000 on the high end, it's not real hard to see that adding up to millions of dollars fairly rapidly.


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