September 14th, 2008

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11:15 am - data retention
So I was preparing for an operating system reload today, and decided that since I no longer use Windows, there's no reason to maintain the rather large set of install files for Windows software that I used to keep onhand. Going and getting rid of that led me to tooling around some REALLY seldomly travelled areas, which was kinda cool - trip down WAAAYYY back memory lane. Interestingly, Ubuntu plays the old Amiga MOD files - 4-track compositions sort of like MIDIs, except using digital samples (like WAVs) embedded into the file itself - right out of the box, so I could listen to the music I thought was amazingly rich and high-tech in the old MS-DOS days. Heh.

And on the serious electronic archaeology tip, I found this:

Note the "Modified" timestamp - I've had that file in live storage without a break for more than TWENTY YEARS.

Can anybody else top that? =)

Current Mood: lol
Current Music: Pogo - Alice

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[User Picture] From: marys_second
Date: September 14th, 2008 - 04:09 pm
Nope. Pretty sure I can't even go back five years.

[User Picture] From: herbaliser
Date: September 14th, 2008 - 06:15 pm
Nope, oldest files I have are MP3s from 1996.

[User Picture] From: clme
Date: September 15th, 2008 - 05:33 am

How about memory lame? I can beat memory lame...

I cant beat that with live storage. Best I could do is either digging out my old 5.25" floppies or finding one of the CD's I once burned said floppies to as a backup.

For live storage I only go back to 1999... around the same time I started to store music.

I have a few of those 'mod' files you gave me once a few years ago. Winamp plays them for me, but not much else. Apparently winamp no longer plays the XM files though. I'll have to see if I can find an S3M.

[User Picture] From: theonyx
Date: September 15th, 2008 - 05:43 am
The real question is: How many file system formats did that thing survive?

[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: September 21st, 2008 - 03:40 am
As best as I can recall:

Apple ][ DOS (and/or possibly ProDOS)
FAT16 (via WyseDOS, PC-DOS, then MS-DOS)

Or if you'd rather count operating systems on the storage hosts: Apple DOS, 3 incarnations of IBM PC style DOS, Win95 OSR1, Win95 OSR2, Win98, WinNT4, Win2K, FreeBSD, and Ubuntu Linux.

In actual fact I have quite a few files that are that old, but that's the oldest one I found that still had the original timestamp intact. (Most versions of DOS and Windows are notorious for not preserving timestamps on normal copy operations.)

[User Picture] From: tawnyleona
Date: September 15th, 2008 - 07:52 am
You know the whole thing about how you should throw something out if you dont use it for a year or so? Yeah...I tend to, um, accidentally wipe my drive about once every couple of years. Sure, I have pictures and stuff on cd's and dvd's, but jeez, who can keep track of all that?

Wait, I'm sure YOU can.:)

[User Picture] From: freakout
Date: September 16th, 2008 - 04:25 am
I can't top this but the computer system we have at work alerts us to someone signing in with our ID and incorrect password on each particular set (most of the time, it's just me having typed the wrong password at some point in time). But the other day, I signed in and it told me someone tried to use my ID on that set on 07OCT76. hahahaha.

[User Picture] From: clme
Date: September 21st, 2008 - 11:05 am
Apparently I still have AIM logs from 2001...

Jimbosworldorg: I was overjoyed when they added in support for MOD and S3M and XM and IT to Winamp :-)

clme3748: Hehehe. YAY! All that huge-oldskool techno will work!

Jimbosworldorg: did you keep all your old MOD and etc files?
Jimbosworldorg: I know I did, although sadly I got rid of my enormous demo collection at one point... ::cries::

clme3748: Um... unless they came with a game then no. :-(

Jimbosworldorg: I have an ungodly collection of oldskool :-)
Jimbosworldorg: I do wish I hadn't deleted the demos in a fit of hard-drive-conversation mania once, though

Thats from the same conversation where you sent me a virtual crapload of files, but damn if I can find more than two of them at the moment.

Some 'interesting' asides, from the same convo:

Jimbosworldorg: clem.cohabitate(psycho);
clme3748: stop it... not everyone i've lived with is a ....
clme3748: STOP THAT!
Jimbosworldorg: heh heh
clme3748: .... the question here is,
Jimbosworldorg: ?
clme3748: do I turn people I live with into psycho's,
clme3748: or are psycho's attracted to me?
Jimbosworldorg: uh-oh
Jimbosworldorg: Clem's getting philosphical on us
clme3748: philosphical? strangely fitting I feel.
Jimbosworldorg: I think you're attracted to psychos.
Jimbosworldorg: I know I have to battle that tendency.

Jimbosworldorg: "I gave that up for you"
Jimbosworldorg: "Because I LOOOOOOOVE you"
Jimbosworldorg: :: urinates profoundly ::

clme3748: Ok. I'll promptly urinate in her linens.

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