September 18th, 2008


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jimbojones
02:00 pm - I am so sick of hearing about Obama's "lack of experience"
In the interests of having a quick reference for all the people who keep yammering about Obama's "lack of experience" (and also in the interest of pissing off jeepgeek, who it appears is my old friend Philbin), here's a quick rundown:


Barack ObamaSarah Palin
Education:
  • BA in Political Science with a specialization in international relations, from Columbia
  • JD in law from Harvard, magna cum laude
  • BS in communications-journalism, U of Idaho (by way of several community colleges)

Work / Political Experience:

  • 12 years teaching Constitutional Law at University of Chicago Law School
  • 11 years active practice at a law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and economic development
  • 7 years Illinois (pop 12,852,548) State Senate
  • 4 years United States (pop 305,182,000) Senate
  • ranked by congress.org as 11th most powerful US Senator
  • 4 years Wasilla, AK (pop 6,300) City Council
  • 6 years Mayor of Wasilla, AK (pop 6,300)
  • 2 years Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission
  • 2 years co-director of "Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service, Inc." - a group "designed to provide training for republican women in Alaska"
  • 2 years governor of Alaska (pop 683,478)


So, uh... "lack of experience" anyone? 12 years Constitutional Law professor at one of the most renowned law schools in the country + 11 years of serving populations in the tens to hundreds of millions, vs... uh... 10 years serving a population smaller than the capacity of most high school football stadiums + 2 years serving a population smaller than most major (or even not-so-major) metropolitan areas?


"But I like numbers!" you say. "Give me simple numbers!" Well, okay. If you multiply (years of service) * (millions of citizens served), you get "mega-citizen-service-years". Nifty. Barack Obama has accumulated 1,310.7 MCSY over 11 years of service, vs. Sarah Palin's 1.4 MCSY over 12 years of service.


Sheesh.

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[User Picture] From: billyfleetwood
Date: September 18th, 2008 - 08:16 pm
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I did a similar breakdown for someone recently, and halfway through, I realized what a ridiculous insult to our collective intelligence it is to even try to compare the two.


 
[User Picture] From: tawnyleona
Date: September 19th, 2008 - 02:29 am
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It's kind of chilling to me that they keep comparing them in the first place, since Obama is running for president and Palin is running for vice-president. It's almost like everyone is saying, "Well, you know that old fucker is OLD....."

Maybe I haven't paid enough attention to past elections, but it seems fundamentally retarded to compare the two...(or maybe not if you're using the John McCain Dictionary meaning of fundamental.) They are running for completely different offices, and while, if McCain is elected and possibly croaks on the job, Palin would assume the office, that's a pretty rare occurrence and doesn't deserve all the attention it's been getting.


 
[User Picture] From: jimbojones
Date: September 19th, 2008 - 02:35 am
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If McCain were 52, or 62, you'd have more of a point.

At 72, the possibility that he won't survive his first term is far too likely to ignore. I'd consider Sarah Palin in office as the sitting President to be an EXTREME catastrophe, making it perfectly reasonable to compare her and Obama.

Or, if you prefer, her and Biden.

Or. You know. Her and damn near anybody. Her level of political experience is pathetically inadequate, even without bringing in the long history of questionable dealings in what service she's done.


 
[User Picture] From: pantsnotneeded
Date: September 19th, 2008 - 03:41 am
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The only useful experience shes got is from slobbing knob.



 
[User Picture] From: tawnyleona
Date: September 19th, 2008 - 04:57 am
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I definitely agree on that point. But if it's such a risk that McCain is going to die in office, why is he even running? (That's rhetorical, btw.)

Just the whole notion that everyone is taking it as a given that oh yeah, he's probably gonna die, is the biggest freaking reason not to vote for him... and yes, it DOES make the vp choice that much more important, but it shouldn't be a consideration in the first place.

And frankly, from years of working with seniors, it may be a good idea to put an age cap on the presidency, as well as a minimum, although that's not too pc. We've already gone through President Jelly Bean, and the percentage of seniors with some form of dementia is one of those topics that are avoided worse than race.

The fact that I haven't heard a single. damn. good. thing about Palin is overwhelming. Even her supporters make her sound terrible. Even the small things like her personal email being hacked and posted on the web - her emails made me cringe. I don't even write personal emails so unprofessionally.

I don't necessarily think that experience is as important; I don't think many previous jobs can adequately prepare someone to be president. But saying that Palin has more experience than, yes, anyone IS laughable. I could, however, overlook any inexperience if it WEREN'T for all the other "questionable dealings" that have surfaced in the short time since she's been announced pick.

I'm not a political expert, so take everything I say with a grain of salt. But that should say something too, that someone who doesn't even have a real interest in this stuff has read so much credible bad accounts and can have strong feelings about something:)


 
From: mranonymous44
Date: September 21st, 2008 - 10:26 pm
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It's amazing

Jeepgeek and discussed this a bit back (he's my best friend). He is enamored with Palin, despite having absolutely nothing to qualify her for the position. Not 'not enough' to qualify her, NOTHING to qualify her other than bringing in some female votes to the republicans.

The sad thing is, there are enough mouth breathers out there that will fall for this. That's the scary part.


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